IMPORTANT NOTE*** (it is very important to interface our unit with SC/APC - Angle Polished Connector to avoid any light reflections.
If your fiber is terminated with the SC, ST, FC /PC flat connector, you need to use an optical jumper from PC type to SC/APC for proper conversion.
H-NMS - 10/100 Ethernet IP NMS GUI interface for remote monitoring over IP network OPTION FOR F-MININODE-2RP-HP
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Optical Parameters |
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Receiving Optical Power |
dBm |
-9 ~ +2 |
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Optical Return Loss |
dB |
>45 |
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Optical Receiving Wavelength |
nm |
1100 ~ 1600 |
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Optical Connector Type |
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SC/APC IMPORTANT NOTE*** (it is very important to interface our unit with SC/APC - Angle Polished Connector to avoid any light reflections. If your fiber is terminated with the SC, ST, FC /PC flat connector, you need to use an optical jumper from PC type to SC/APC for proper conversion. |
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Fiber Type |
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Single mode |
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Link Parameters |
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C/N |
dB |
≥51 |
Note 1 |
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C/CTB |
dB |
≥60 |
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C/CSO |
dB |
≥60 |
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RF Parameters |
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Frequency Range |
MHz |
45 ~860/1003 |
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Flatness in Band |
dB |
±0.75 |
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( F-MININODE-2RP-HP-B one output) |
( F-MININODE-2RP-HP two output) |
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Rated Output Level |
dBµV |
≥ 108 |
≥ 104 |
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Max Output Level |
dBpV |
≥ 108 (-9 ~ +2dBm Optical power receiving) |
≥ 104 (-9 ~ +2dBm Optical power receiving) |
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≥ 112(-7~+2dBm Optical power receiving) |
≥ 108 (-7 ~ +2dBm Optical power receiving) |
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Output Return Loss |
dB |
≥16 |
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Output Impedance |
Ω |
75 |
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Optical AGC Range |
dBm |
(-9dBm / -8dBm / -7dBm / -6dBm / -5dBm / -4dBm) - (+2dBm) adjustable |
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Electrical control EQ range |
dB |
0~15 |
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Electrical control ATT range |
dB |
0~15 |
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General Characteristics |
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Power Voltage |
V |
A: AC (150~265)V |
D: DC 12V/1A External power supply |
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Operating Temperature |
°C |
-40~60 |
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Consumption |
VA |
≤ 8 |
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Dimension |
mm |
190 (L)* 110 (W)* 52(H) |
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the mini-node is an optical receiver with Return Path
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I have a coax demarc from the cable company that carries both internet and TV that I want to convert to fiber optics to enable me to transmit the signal less than a mile to a fiber/RF coax converter to enable me to use the cable companies box to watch TV and have high speed internet.
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So in this case you need an RF Optical transmitter; then you need an Optical RF receiver with Return Path, and finally you need a Return Path Receiver; so 3 products total and at least 2 strands of singlemode fiber.
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Would this device “L-BAND over Fiber Tx+Rx Basic 1 Ch Kit” be more practical for what I am trying to accomplish?
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No this is the wrong equipment for your application
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Lband is satellite, which is in a different frequency range then CATV
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So because I’m transmitting data it would require me to utilize these three devices, correct?
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Data and CATV in the RF band; yes correct.
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I would also need to install and use single mode duplex fiber optic cable is that correct?
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Yes, minimum 2 strands.
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One to send and one to receive.
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So for each location I wanted to have cable and high speed internet I would need to run two strands of fiber for each location?
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not necessarily, it depends what your fiber layout looks like
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or the general design itself
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in this kind of design you can use an optical splitter to minimize some of the products needed.
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Are you able to provide me with a price for these four pieces of equipment, optical transmitter, splitter, optical receiver and the little gray box that goes into the house?
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Sure what size optical splitter do you need?
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You mention a mile of fiber but do you have an optical budget reading on those strands?
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Transmitter 4mW starts at $1995.00 but if you need a larger splitter, then you 'll need a stronger transmitter.
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1 to 4 and I saw you had both a rack mounted model and mini version so is there a price difference with these?
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4 channel return path receiver
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MiniNode with Return Path
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how about the optical transmitter?
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1x4 rackmount splitter is 400, the compact model is 350
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do you offer the fiber optic cable I need in custom cut lengths with connectors?
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yes we can do that,
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dam:
Just to clarify — the distances you’re referring to are RF distances on coaxial cable, not the optical fiber portion of the system, correct?
Customer:
Yes, that’s correct. I’m referring to the RF side on the coax.
Adam:
Okay. What equipment are you connecting to the output of the mini node? Are you going directly into TVs, or are there splitters or taps in between?
Customer:
We’re using multitaps. The taps feed the TVs directly.
Adam:
Understood. And what value taps are you using?
Customer:
We’re using 26 dB taps.
Adam:
That explains it. Our mini nodes output around +45 dBmV RF level.
If you use a 26 dB tap, the drop port already introduces about 26 dB of loss, which means the signal level going to the TV will be roughly:
+45 dBmV − 26 dB = about +19 dBmV
That level is actually perfectly acceptable for a TV.
Most TVs can reliably receive signals in the range of roughly +5 dBmV to +30 dBmV.
Customer:
I see. In my calculations I started with the +45 output, then subtracted the 26 dB tap, and depending on the cable distance I thought I needed additional attenuation.
I may have been using too strict of a target range. I was trying to keep the signal around 0 to +10 dBmV at the TV.
Adam:
Yes, that range is a bit too strict. TVs can handle a much wider signal range than that.
We test these systems regularly, and even signals up to +30 dBmV typically work without issues.
Since the 26 dB tap already provides the necessary attenuation, you usually won’t need additional attenuators unless you are feeding the TV directly without a tap.
Customer:
That makes sense. So I was just being too conservative with my target signal level at the TV.
Adam:
Exactly. Because the tap already introduces sufficient loss, you can typically use the system exactly as designed without adding extra attenuators.
Customer:
Great. That answers my question. Thank you.
Access the node display
Look for optical input (example: 0.8 dBm)
? Acceptable range:
Typically -8 dBm to +2 dBm
???? If within range → proceed
???? If too high → consider optical attenuation
Fiber nodes typically output very high RF levels
Measure using:
RF meter
Spectrum analyzer
???? Expect:
~+42 to +45 dBmV
Use RF pads (attenuators)
Example:
30–40 dB attenuation may be required
???? Goal:
Bring signal down to ~0–15 dBmV at the tuner
Most nodes include built-in RF attenuation:
Navigate to:
A1 (Forward Path Attenuator)
Set value:
Up to 15 dB
?? Important:
You may need to press and hold buttons to activate adjustment mode
Best practice:
Use internal attenuation first
Fine-tune with external pads
Example:
15 dB internal
20–30 dB external
After adjustment:
Check if channels lock properly
Verify with:
RF analyzer (MER / BER)
TV or STB
? If locking → issue resolved
? If not → continue balancing
???? Too much RF power causes failure — not too little
QAM signals are digital:
They either lock cleanly or fail completely
Overdriving causes:
Distortion
Poor MER
No lock
You may see a setting like:
E1 – Forward Path Equalizer
Balances signal levels across frequencies
Compensates for cable losses (higher freq loss)
Long coax runs
Uneven channel levels
???? Think of it as:
“Leveling” all channels evenly
If only using forward path:
Return laser is:
Inactive by default
Activates only when RF input is present (burst mode)
Keep unused optical ports covered
Prevent dust contamination
| Location | Recommended Level |
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| Node Output | +42 to +45 dBmV |
| After Attenuation | +0 to +15 dBmV |
| Ideal Target | ~+5 to +10 dBmV |
? Check optical input power
? Measure RF output
? Add attenuation (external)
? Enable internal attenuation (A1)
? Re-test QAM lock
? Fine-tune levels
In a recent installation:
Node output was too hot
Even with 35 dB external attenuation, QAM failed
Adding 15 dB internal attenuation:
???? Immediately restored channel lock
The most common cause of QAM lock failure in fiber node installations is excessive RF signal level.
???? Proper attenuation and balancing are critical.
If your system shows:
No lock
Intermittent lock
Unstable channels
?? Always check RF levels first.
Thor Broadcast engineers can assist with:
System design
RF balancing
Remote configuration
???? Call us anytime
???? www.thorbroadcast.com
Mark:
We’ll have a 4-way split, with:
3 active fiber runs
1 spare for future use
Distances:
Longest run: ~2,250 ft (with 2 splices)
Other runs: ~750 ft
Mark:
Yes, there will be a return path.
Return frequency: ~21 MHz
Forward starts around 50 MHz
Adam:
Perfect—that’s a standard forward + return CATV system.
Adam:
You have two options depending on future expansion:
Use a 4 mW transmitter:
???? https://thorbroadcast.com/product/4-mw-catv-rf-over-fiber-tx-45-870-mhz.html
Ideal for:
1×4 splitter
Short to medium fiber runs
Most cost-effective solution
Use an 8 mW transmitter:
???? https://thorbroadcast.com/product/8-mw-catv-rf-over-fiber-tx-45-870-mhz.html
Supports:
1×8 splitter expansion
Longer distances / higher losses
Provides additional optical power margin
Adam’s Recommendation:
???? If future expansion is possible, go with the 8 mW transmitter
Adam:
Use the Mini Node with Return Path:
???? https://thorbroadcast.com/product/optical-mini-node-catv-rf-receiver-with-return-path-8230.html
(Model: F-MININODE-2RP-HP)
Supports forward + return RF
High RF output level
Designed for CATV distribution
???? You will need:
1 node per fiber leg (4 total)
Use PLC Optical Splitters:
???? https://thorbroadcast.com/product/1-x-2-to-1-x-128-fiber-optic-couplers.html/225
Designed for 4 outputs
Lower insertion loss
???? https://thorbroadcast.com/product/1-x-2-to-1-x-128-fiber-optic-couplers.html/226
Allows system expansion
Slightly higher insertion loss
Ideal for long-term scalability
Adam:
Yes:
Splitters include protective caps
Always keep unused ports covered to:
Prevent dust contamination
Maintain optical performance
Adam:
Use:
SC/APC connectors (green)
If different connectors exist:
Use conversion jumpers (LC, ST → SC/APC)
Adam:
For your project, I recommend:
8 mW transmitter (future-proof)
1×8 PLC splitter
4 × Mini Nodes (F-MININODE-2RP-HP)
Return path receiver (if required at headend)
???? This provides:
Reliable performance
Expansion capability
Proper optical power margin
This system design includes:
? RF over single-mode fiber
? Forward + return path operation
? 4–8 way optical distribution
? High-performance CATV mini nodes
? Scalable architecture for future expansion
Thor Broadcast can assist with:
System design
Product selection
RF level balancing
???? Contact our engineering team anytime
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