IPTV 16/32 CLARO CANAL de RF QAM/ATSC Modulador IPTV to 8 ATSC

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Do you need IP to Analog RF NTSC/PAL modulated output? Can you accept Digital RF QAM/ATSC/DVB-T output? What country are you from, we will check your CATV RF modulation standard If you need Analog RF output than we would need to use the IP to CVBS decoder than Analog Modulator with CVBS Input. https://thorbroadcast.com/product/8-ip-to-8-analog-video-audio-cvbs-out.html

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This IP to QAM modulator unit supports unicast/multicast UDP and RTP Input IP TS streams only. Please check if those cameras have that format available, if not You can use our IP STB (set-top boxes) to decode your stress to HDMI Video format, this is a: https://thorbroadcast.com/product/compact-ip-decoder-set-top-box.html Now the HDMI QAM from the STBs connect to our 8Ch QAM/ATSC modulator to modulate and create 8 individual digital channels with the HD resolution up to 1080p https://thorbroadcast.com/product/1-8-hdmi-digital-rf-modulator-cc-closed-captioning.html If the cameras have HDMI outputs you could connect the output directly to the modulator, eliminating the need of the STB. Some cameras have other Video outputs like Analog Video CVBS or HD/SD- SDI, we have other modulators with those video format inputs

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What modulation will you need QAM or ATSC, the unit support only one of them? For hotel application QAM is better to format, you can fit more videos too. How many IP TS's do you need to modulate? Please note that 1 QAM channel contain 38Mbps data, the 1 ATSC channel contains 19Mbps data, so the amount of the programs we can fit in 1 Channel depends on the encoding TS video data rate. For example, if your TS datarate is 8mbps, then you can fit 4 Videos on the 1 QAM frequency or 2 videos on 1 ATSC frequency because of the 38mbps limit for QAM. Please let me know if this is clear.

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Yes, this is what that equipment was designed for. It will output 32QAM Channels; if you need more then that you just purchase additional units. However you can also put multiple programs in a single QAM, that is determined by the data rate of each IP. For the RF over Fiber application, we have an entire catalog of units to get the project done correctly. https://thorbroadcast.com/products/cable-tv-catv-rf-45-900mhz What is the approximate distance of the fiber, or the optical loss of the line?

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The H-IPRF-16/32 accepts a clear IP stream to CLEAR QAM, so the Vertimax needs to stripped off. The unit is transparent, it works as a gateway, so whatever format is coming on the IP, it will be situated on the QAM. You can also mux multiple TS programs on the single carrier, up to 28Mbps per channel, so for example if your streams are encoded at 8Mbps, you can fit 4 of them, For example, ch 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4

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We do have options for both. The QAM models are in stock; we have 16 and 32 channel outputs available.  https://thorbroadcast.com/product/iptv-to-16-32-clear-channel-rf-qam-atsc-modulator.html/122 So, you can use 2 units, and then use a simple 2x1 RF combiner and the output of the combiner will have all 64 channels. 

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Are you looking for IP to 16QAM H-IPRF-16QAM or IP to H-IPRF-32QAM? Are the incoming IP streams Clear UDP multicast streams encoded in MPEG2? 2---------- Yes, the system is able to mux internally, but please note that we can not transcode (h.264, aa3) to MPEG2, so if the multicast st stream is encoded in H.264, the same stream will be modulated on QAM. A lot of TV's tuners will be not able to decode H.264, just a few companies and new TV's support H.264

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We do indeed have EDGE QAM modulators that would be ideal in this kind of scenario where you need to convert IP streams directly to QAM or ATSC.  Those units are very specific so you need to determine if you would like to do QAM cable or ATSC over the air antenna.  So you should consider if you have any other programs or CATV channels running in your vessel, it would be easier to match whatever else is presently available.   IP to 16QAM  https://thorbroadcast.com/product/iptv-to-16-32-clear-channel-rf-qam-atsc-modulator.html/122   IP to 8 ATSC  https://thorbroadcast.com/product/iptv-to-16-32-clear-channel-rf-qam-atsc-modulator.html/125   Both of those units are the same price.    Some questions I would have for you is in order for this to go smoothly we would need to know more about those IP streams you have.  What is the protocol being used? I assume those are multicast streams as well but double check on that for us.

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The higest desinty we can offer for the DVB-T is 16CH If you use a 6mhz channel then 19.4Mb payload x 16 = 310Mbps If you use 8Mhz channels than 33Mb payload  x 16 = 528Mbps The part number is H-IPRF-16DVBT

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Yes we have similar IP to Clear QAM gateway, similar to Cisco RFGW-1   H-IPRF-32QAM is a IP to 32 QAM gateway , it generates 32 QAM block channels The unit is is transparent to incoming TS stream, so the TS on the IP input = TS output on the RF QAM The streams can be put and mixed anywhere on the available and generated Channels It supports VCT and PID's remapping, major and minor channels can be named for any stream  

  If you need 50-60 channels than 2 pcs would do the job

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This is just a gateway, it converts IP to RF without changing the stream.  Now that you mention you have IP camera's this probably won't work since you mention you're in Massachusetts.   Here's why; these gateways do not have any sort of transcoding implemented (yet, we're working on that) So I went to the camera's data sheet and these are H264/H265 camera's.  Which is great, if you want to use something like VLC to view the footage.  Now if you're planning on using an american television with north american standards this solution won't work.  You have to re-enocde the signal first. So essentially you need to take the camera outputs and put them in an RF modulator, which usually require IP STB's.  You can't view H264 video on American MPEG2 televisions (for the most part, there are exceptions.    We are working on a new model that has built in transcoding, however, that might be ready in 1-2 months time, it'll be the first of its kind on the market.  For the time being if this is an immediate solution you require, you'd be better off purchasing IP STB's, so if you have 16 camera's, you'll need 16 decoders, then you plug those HDMI outputs into an RF modulator. 

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That is the case. As I noted we're working on a new product that would have a built in Transcoder, so it would be able to do all of this in one step.    But yes, American standard for television is MPEG2.  You purchased camera's that are H264. So it's just not compatible, the TV won't see the image.    This is a less expensive option: (also I'd stay away from setting those camera's up as H265, there's no benefit in your situation.) https://thorbroadcast.com/product/compact-ip-decoder-set-top-box.html https://thorbroadcast.com/product/1-4-or-8-hdmi-digital-rf-encoder-modulator-8230.html/238   For the whole package, we would be able to give you a discount of sorts; or you can wait until the new hardware is ready.  But this is the case that tons of people have when they go to install, most people don't realize codecs and protocols have to match otherwise distribution is dead in the water.    Yes if you're in port, and can pick up ATSC channels, that would make sense. But if you go port to port, or various cities, where the channels change, then you also might have to get an RF filter to ensure those channels never corrupt the incoming ATSC from the camera's.    Basic setup, lets say you have 16 Camera's  16 STB 16 HDMI modulated inputs you're already looking at close to 13k without the switches or cabling or anything else.      In general this happens a lot, people find a camera they like and install somewhere, could be a warehouse for example; then they realize if they bought the slightly more expensive camera, they'd have an easier time with the headend conversion. 

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The device outputs +37dbmv , The TV's are able to decode the signal at 0 dbmv , so we have 37 db to play with.   Loss examples. Coax loss is 3-7db per 100feet , debonding of the frequency 1x4 splitter loss 7.5db 1x8 splitter is 12db   If the loss in the system excedes 37db, than you can simply use RF amplifiers.

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So the actual answer varies. Reality is that the QAM frequency can carry up to 38mbps of data; so you can use that pipe however you want.  You can do 1 HD at 19mbps, and 3 SD at 6mbps or whatever breakdown you like.  What also matters is if you are sending H264 or MPEG2, naturally H264 is more dense, however most TV's can't see H264, so realistically if you use MPEG2 and want full 1080p60 HD, then we suggest 2 programs at 19mbps; example you can have 20.1 and 20.5 using one frequency but you have two full HD programs on one frequency or channel.  You can also send 720p at 9mbps each, and technically have 4 programs of HD; however as you know there is a big difference between 720p, 1080i, and 1080p.  These are all things that play a part in the debate, so there isn't technically a right or wrong answer, it's generally how many programs you want to stuff into the output.  However the unit itself is designed to output 32 full QAM channels, so in practical terms 64 full HD 1080p programs is very reasonable.  So the actual answer varies. Reality is that the QAM frequency can carry up to 38mbps of data; so you can use that pipe however you want.  You can do 1 HD at 19mbps, and 3 SD at 6mbps or whatever breakdown you like.  What also matters is if you are sending H264 or MPEG2, naturally H264 is more dense, however most TV's can't see H264, so realistically if you use MPEG2 and want full 1080p60 HD, then we suggest 2 programs at 19mbps; example you can have 20.1 and 20.5 using one frequency but you have two full HD programs on one frequency or channel.  You can also send 720p at 9mbps each, and technically have 4 programs of HD; however as you know there is a big difference between 720p, 1080i, and 1080p.  These are all things that play a part in the debate, so there isn't technically a right or wrong answer, it's generally how many programs you want to stuff into the output.  However the unit itself is designed to output 32 full QAM channels, so in practical terms 64 full HD 1080p programs is very reasonable. 

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You mention analog and IP for inputs on the modulators; can you be slightly more specific?  We do have quite a few options.  How many overall channels are you trying to add?  Depending on that answer you could use an IP to RF Edge Qam like this H-IPRF-32QAM But we would also need to know the PID information for RCN, do you have that info available for their boxes? If they require certain information, you might have to use modulators to do that contribution. 

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So products like that exist, but generally speaking if you want to output the signal on RF (ATSC or QAM) the video should already be in MPEG2. The problem you're going to find quickly is that American Television sets require MPEG2; if you happen to have TV's that can accept H264 then that's really great and we do have a simple solution. However if you have MPEG2 TV's, then you're better off using STB's for IP to HDMI, then using RF modulators to create your RF channels. How many IP Camera's do you have?

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Well as I mentioned the TV to view those channels needs to be reviewed of weather they can see H264 or not. As I noted, chances are they won't unless they are quite new, but even some new TV's don't have that feature. Well realistically in cases like this we have equipment that can do IP to RF. We have units that can output 16 or 32 QAM channels from IP feeds. https://thorbroadcast.com/product/iptv-to-16-32-clear-channel-rf-qam-atsc-modulator.html/123 But that's only if you already have MPEG2 video. In this case I would say using a simple IP STB for HDMI output going to a modulator for RF output is the practical solution. https://thorbroadcast.com/product/compact-ip-decoder-set-top-box.html Then we have a number of RF modulators that will output MPEG2 as you need. https://thorbroadcast.com/product/1-4-or-8-hdmi-digital-rf-encoder-modulator-8230.html/239 https://thorbroadcast.com/product/petit-hdmi-rf-modulator-chassis-system-for-1-12-units.html/254  

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If the IP streams are CLEAR UDP Multicast, then you can use the H-IPRF-16/32QAM. However, I doubt that Cox will provide clear unencrypted IP Streams. The H-IPRF-16/32QAM is rated as commercial-grade equipment, 

Another option is to modulate a single channel output from their STB. You can use a 1ch HDMI modulator to encode and modulate HDMI to QAM or ATSC, which you can then use with your TiVo. So, it would work like this:

Cox IP STB -> HDMI -> Petit Modulator -> QAM out to TiVo

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So you have IPTV headend, you wish to send it over fiber, then decode from IP to RF, then send the RF to all the hotel rooms?   If this is correct then we have some options for you.  For IP over Fiber I suggest these units: https://thorbroadcast.com/product/10-100-1000-mbps-fast-and-gigabit-ethernet-over-1-fiber-media-8230.html The transmit and receive is $398.00 as a kit.    For IP to RF we have these models available: H-IPRF-32QAM These can produce up to 32 QAM channels.  Since you are in Spain, I assume your IPTV transport streams are MPEG4.  You will be able to put multiple streams on a single RF carrier.  So if you have 64 IPTV streams, you can put 2 programs on each RF channel in QAM. The same is true if you would like to put 3 TS on one RF channel.    Then if you have coax going through out your hotel, we have amps and splitters for coax if needed: https://thorbroadcast.com/product/40db-bi-directional-distribution-amplifier-54-1000mhz-coax-catv-qam-atsc-analog-8230.html   RF Splitters/combiners - the blue icons above the picture show the assortment we offer https://thorbroadcast.com/product/coax-multiplexers-splitters-combiners-f-type-input-output-catv-atsc-or-8230.html/257   Let me know if this makes sense and if you have any questions.    Also please be aware that if your IPTV headend outputs MPEG4, that your televisions in each room must be available to decode MPEG4 TS as well otherwise this will not work.  Please check your televisions in reference if they can decode QAM in MPEG2 and MPEG4. 

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Well I'm assuming you're not talking about an IP switch, but you'll probably need one of those.  If they are going to 2 televisions then he wants to be able to view them easily, we have an actual controller like this model https://thorbroadcast.com/product/maximuscontrol-professional-grade-video-ptz-controller.html   If they're going to a TV then they either need to have HDMI or RF.  We do have IP to RF converters and gateways, however if your IP camera's are not MPEG2 then those streams need to be encoded first since North American standard for television is MPEG2, and not H264. We do have a compact 4 channel model if your IP camera's are actually MPEG2 as well H-IPRF-4QAM https://thorbroadcast.com/product/ip-udp-multicast-to-4ch-catv-rf-qam-atsc-digital-8230.html     This would allow you to view those Camera's like regular CATV channels on your TV.      If the camera's are IP in H264 you can also use the IP STB, you'll need 4, and if the TV's are far away from each other you will need perhaps another set of 4 at the other TV.  Those STB's will decode your IP to HDMI, then you can use and HDMI switcher to go into the TV.  We do have an 8x8 switcher for HDMI ports.  https://thorbroadcast.com/product/8-input-8-output-hdmi-matrix-switcher.html     Hopefully that helps. 

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We can only do that using VCT (Virtual Channel Table) numbers, not the physical channels, because they are too spread out on the RF spectrum. Please find attached a list of which frequencies are currently available on your coax. The device has created blocks of 32 channels, for example, starting from channel 23 and above. Please set them first. Attached you will find the QAM J.83b frequency chart and a quick installation guide for your reference. . You can configure it in the modulator section. To proceed, go to the TS property output on each stream, clear the property, and set the proper Major and Minor channel numbers in the Channel Tab. Enable VCT on each output (CVCT).

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Thank you for your inquiry. I will give you a call to discuss this further, as there are several possible approaches. 

The fiber solution is a solid option, and Smile could also be considered.

Transmitter

https://thorbroadcast.com/product/thor-optical-mini-catv-rf-transmitter-45-1000mhz.html

Receiver

https://thorbroadcast.com/product/thor-fiber-optical-mini-ftth-rf-catv-cable-tv-receiver-8230.html

If you prefer an IP-based solution, I would recommend the 24-channel CVBS baseband Video Encoder, which eliminates the need to convert to HDMI: H-24AV-IP – 24 Analog CVBS Video/Audio H.264 SD Encoder & Streamer.

On the receiving end, we can use the H-IP-32RF, an IP to 32-channel analog RF modulator: H-IP-32RF – IPTV to 32 RF Channel Analog NTSC/PAL Modulator.

Please refer to the application drawing below:

 

 

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If the Vitec can accept the MPEG RF signal as in RTP or UDP then yes.    Our high density gateway is a direct translator; meaning we do not touch the RF makeup, it's a direct conversion of coax to IP; so the encoding protocol and data rates are not augmented in any way.    As for the splitting of the RF, we have a full line of splitters/combiners as well as compact amps  https://thorbroadcast.com/product/coax-multiplexers-splitters-combiners-f-type-input-output-catv-atsc-or-8230.html   https://thorbroadcast.com/product/40db-bi-directional-distribution-amplifier-54-1000mhz-coax-catv-qam-atsc-analog-8230.html (We have rackmount amps as well)    So those RF inputs have a minimum requirement of what the signal dB level needs to be at for the machine to see that RF and decode the program stream.  In this case, you should get an RF measurement of your RF in the headend (inject an amp here if needed) ; then use a tiny splitter with 4 outputs for the 3 RF to IP gateways and one back into your existing RF system.  Here each one of those outputs from the 1x4 splitter will go into a 1x16 splitter    Then I would use the spillover / waterfall method to send that input from input one to input sixteen. Those products come with small 4 inch coax jumpers.  Now you will lose a little rf power on each spill over but not a lot, so you need ample RF input power on the first input to ensure it gets to the last input with signal levels still in tact of the appropriate dB.    I hope that makes sense. I have ample time to discuss today, you can reach me directly at 1800-521-8467 ext 1

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If the feeds are coming from different locations with different IP addresses, then they would typically need to be decoded separately. Each stream would be handled by its own decoder or IRD.

Customer: Understood. What product would you recommend for that? Our goal is to take these RTSP or SRT feeds, bring them into our facility, convert them to QAM, and then distribute them through our internal RF system.

We expect 8–10 streams, but let’s start with 8 streams.

Adam: Just to confirm — the incoming streams are RTSP or SRT, correct?

Customer: Yes.

Adam: In that case, one approach would be:

1. Decode the IP streams into HDMI or SDI video

2. Feed those outputs into a QAM modulator

For decoding, you could use the following unit:

Decoder Option

• DecodePro 4K IP Video Decoder https://thorbroadcast.com/product/ip-video-decoder-4-channel-4k-multi-format-hdmi-sdi-vga-8230.html

This is a 4-channel IP video decoder that supports multiple protocols including RTSP, UDP, RTMP, and others, and can output video via HDMI, SDI, VGA, or CVBS.

Each unit can decode four independent streams simultaneously, which makes it suitable for broadcast environments where multiple feeds must be decoded in real time.

You could then connect the outputs to RF modulators such as:

• Thunder-4 HDMI Modulator - https://thorbroadcast.com/product/hdmi-modulator-qam-rf-coax-output-full-hd-8230.html/238

• Thunder-8 HDMI Modulator  - https://thorbroadcast.com/product/hdmi-modulator-qam-rf-coax-output-full-hd-8230.html/239

Customer: Regarding that Decode Pro 4K box — if the source stream is 4K, would I need a 4K modulator as well?

Adam: Yes. The decoder itself is resolution-transparent:

• If the incoming stream is 1080p, it outputs 1080p

• If it is 4K, it can output 4K

However, the RF modulator must also support 4K if you want to modulate a 4K signal.

Customer: Right. Our Hybrid-8 modulator probably wouldn’t pass 4K then.

https://thorbroadcast.com/product/8-channel-hdmi-and-sdi-clear-catv-rf-modulator-qam-8230.html

Adam: Correct — that model does not support 4K input., this unit will :     H-4K-QUAD-MOD  Thor 4K HDMI CATV RF  Modulator & IPTV / DVB-ASI  Encoder 

https://thorbroadcast.com/product/4k-hdmi-rf-catv-modulator-and-iptv-encoder.html/340

Customer: Okay, that answers my question. Essentially, you don’t have one single box that takes RTSP or SRT feeds and directly modulates them to RF, correct?

Adam: Correct — not directly from RTSP or SRT.

However, if the streams were UDP multicast, then we do have an all-in-one solution.

Customer: What do you have for UDP streams?

Adam: For UDP multicast streams you could use an IP-to-QAM edge modulator.

Example:

IPTV to RF Modulator

• H?IPRF?16QAM IPTV to QAM Edge Modulator

• H?IPRF?32QAM IPTV to QAM Edge Modulator - https://thorbroadcast.com/product/iptv-to-16-32-clear-channel-rf-qam-atsc-modulator.html/123

These units accept UDP multicast streams and output them directly to CATV RF channels.

Capabilities

• Accept multiple UDP streams

• Output up to 16 or 32 QAM channels

• Each QAM channel has about 38 Mbps capacity

This means you can place multiple programs on a single QAM carrier.

For example:

If each video stream is ~5 Mbps, then you can place about 6 programs on one RF channel.

So with 16 QAM carriers, you could distribute dozens of TV channels within your internal RF system.

Customer: That actually sounds like the solution we need.

Adam: Yes — it works very well when the streams are generated locally as UDP multicast on your network.

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That all depends on the data rate of those channels coming from the encoder. You also need to check if that is MPEG2 or H264; our product does not change or encode the streams, the data rate and the encoding protocol stays the same.  So if QAM has a 38mbps pipe, just check what your data rates are, generally you will have 1080p at no more then 18mbps, if it's H264 it can be much lower at 8 or 10mbps. Each QAM channel gives you about So depending on your stream bitrate:

• ~8–10 Mbps (high quality 1080p) → about 4–5 channels per QAM
• ~4–6 Mbps (compressed / subchannels) → about 6–7 channels per QAM

Since the unit outputs 32 QAM channels, that means roughly:

• 128–160 HD channels (high quality)
• 190–220+ channels (with subchannels/compression)

 Simple way to think about it: each QAM is a 38 Mbps pipe, and you decide how many channels fit inside based on bitrate. Let me know your stream bitrates and I can calculate it exactly for you. If the streams are encoded at a full 19 Mbps, you would only be able to fit 2 programs per QAM carrier. In that case, the H-IPRF-16QAM would only support 32 programs total.