Petit HDMI RF Modulator Chassis System for 1-12 Units

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Description

Perfect HD up to 1080P/60 HDMI to Coax RF Digital Modulator with Network Ethernet Control

The most unique and cost-effective Networked Digital HDMI RF modulator. Designed to allow any HDMI source like an STB, satellite receiver, HDMI camera, DVD player, Computer, and a ROKU device.You can convert to any RF TV channel of your choice. 

With the Modulator Rack, you get all the great features you love about the Petit bundled together in groups from 2-12 Petits. This is perfect for CATV modulation applications in bars, restaurants and any other place that needs up to 12 different HDMI signals modulated throughout their facility. 

When you order a Thor Chassis System with any amount of modulators, you will get the horizontal rack bars, and enough rack ears for the amount of units purchased in your set. You just need to attached the horizontal bars to your 1RU Rack, followed by adding the rack ears to each Petit, and then using screws to fasten the Petit's into the horizontal bars. As with all of Thor Broadcast units, we will gladly handle presetting the units if you so wish, so once you add the units into the rack, plug in the power supplies, HDMI, and RF cables, you'll be ready to launch your RF system in no time. 

This Thor Modulator is an all-in-one device integrating  HD MPEG2 encoding with AC3 Dolby Audio with an internal digital modulator. Converts HD audio/video signals from any device into DVB-C/ DVB-T/ ATSC/ ISDB-T RF output.
The unit supports any HD source with the following video resolutions: 720p, 1080i, 1080p

Simply connect to any PC and control the unit via Thor Broadcast's proprietary GUI which has been touted as being the best on the market.

This unit is plug and play and has exceptional quality for a very low price to help anyone with any budget create their very own RF channel which can be viewed on thousands of televisions simultaneously. 

Features
  • HDMI Input - HDCP compliant ( works with any HDMI device )
  • 10/100 Ethernet NMS port for control, setup, and monitoring
  • RF output could be set to any CATV format as QAM, ATSC, DVB-T, or ISDB-T 
  • RF output power is +24dbmv; enough for distributing HDTV video to 100's TV over existing coax cable network
  • RF power could be controlled over the network via NMS GUI (Proprietary)
  • MPEG2 video encoding
  • AC3 Audio encoding
  • Video bit rate 19.3Mbps
  • Supports any CATV RF agile channels form 57-1000Mhz, channels  2 -145,
  •  Supports output resolutions up to 1080p
  •  Easy to set up via NMS.
  •  Small size and lightweight
  • Includes wall-mount type rack ears
  •  Install multiple units onto your TV system
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NMS Video instruction describes how to connect and control the H-HDMI-RF-PETIT via your PC over IP Ethernet Network

This is a link to detailed PDF instructions: H-HDMI-RF-PETIT NMS Connection Instructions

Specification

                     Encoding Section-Video

Encoding

MPEG2

Interface

HDMI*1

Resolution

Input

Output

[email protected]

Max. [email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

Bit rate

2.000-24.000 Kbps

                     Encoding Section-Audio

Encoding

MPEG-1 Layer2, MPEG-2 AAC, AC3

Sample rate

48KHz

Bit rate

MPEG1 Layer 2 (128Kbps)

MPEG-2 AAC (VBR)

AC3 (128kbps)

System

Management

Ethernet

Language

English

Upgrade

USB/Ethernet

                      Menu Configuration

Basic

RF range/Key ID/ Service Name/ RF attenuation

Advanced

Service provider/Network ID/ ONID/ TS ID/ Service

 

ID/PMT PID/VPID/APID/PCR PID/Network

                       Modulator Section

MER

Typ. 35dB

RF range

50-950MHz, 1KHz step

RF output level

100 dB ( 70-100 adj )

Standard

ISDB-T

Bandwidth

6M

Constellation

QPSK, 16QAM, 64QAM

Code rate

1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8

Guard interval

1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32

FFT

2K, 8K

Standard

DVB-T

Bandwidth

6M, 7M, 8M

Constellation

QPSK, 16QAM, 64QAM

Code rate

1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8

Guard interval

1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32

FFT

2K, 8K

Standard

DVB-C J.83A

Constellation

64QAM, 128QAM. 256QAM

Symbol rate

5.000-9.000Msps adj

Standard

DTMB

Bandwidth

8M

Constellation

GB20600-2006

Standard

ATSC

Bandwidth

6M

Constellation

8VSB

Standard

QAM J.83B

Bandwidth

6M

Constellation

64QAM, 256QAM

                                     General

Power supply

12V1A

Dimensions

103*64*24mm

Weight

300g

Question and Answers
Answer:
The answer is Yes, any of our Qam modulators can be used for Channel insertion, you just need to find out what channel the Cable company has dedicated for the insertion.
If you still have an old encoder with web access, we could retrieve this information if you send us a screenshot.
We need to know the physical channel number and VCT virtual channel number.
2)
If your cable company is using channel # 5, please select Frequency - 79Mhz  ( this is the corresponding frequency for DVB-C QAM channel #5).
 
Change the VCT Major number from 5 to 98
Once you press apply, the unit will generate physical channel number # 5 (79Mhz) with virtual channel number Majo 98 and Minor 1
If you plug in the coax output directly to the TV and scan your channel, the TV will display channel 98.1
 
Answer:

You can reset the device from the front LCD panel. Press the middle button on the Petit that looks like a box with 3 lines in it. The first time you press it, it will show ATSC or J83b. Press it again and it will show DHON or DHOFF. On the third time, you press the button it will say ASR. When you get to the ASR button press the down arrow to execute the factory reset. The process should only take 30-60 seconds and you'll be back up and running. If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to contact me. 

Answer:

Do you have any more information of what the application necessitates besides HDMI? Do you they require certain resolution or audio capability? Is the latency or size of a unit an issue? We have a plethora of units that can fit the information you provided. The Petit would seem fine, or the AC3-CMOD, we also have multi-channel units like the Thunder-4... All can take HDMI and output to RF

This is the link:

https://thorbroadcast.com/product/1-4-or-8-hdmi-digital-rf-encoder-modulator-8230.html/238

2) The modulator should be able to feed all of the TV's. I would think you'd want to put it near the other Comcast gear. But it does it's 2 blocks away? Is there another headend room or electronics closet closer to the facility you can put the equipment in? In either case you can use the RF Petit, or you can use something like the Thunder-4 for multiple HDMI inputs. All you need is a coax combiner, to get the feed from Comcast and our units together. You also should find out which channels are being unused by Comcast so you can put the QAM channels on open frequencies.

3) Yes you can put it on channel 2; any RF combiner from 5-970mhz will work. I assume you will need QAM 256

Answer:
We have a perfect device for ATSC private channel injection for that camera. 
If you keep the Analog  RCA Camera then we'd have to get you an RCA to HDMI converter, then you can use something small and compact like the PETIT modulator, this unit only takes in HDMI.
So you can upgrade your camera to and HD HDMI output camera, and just, plug indirectly, otherwise, we need to get you a converter with the above product. 
 
Single Channel Petit
H-HDMI-RF-PETIT
 
Multi Channel Units
There are units:
H-THUNDER-4  -
or
H-HDCOAX-8 -
 
Answer:
1) If you log into the NMS GUI through any web browser, there is a menu in the modulation settings to change that. 
Once you get to the menu the password is THOR in all capitals, it will allow you to switch to DVBT
one thing I want to point out DVB-T is a European standard, are you trying to get it working in the USA Canada or Mexico? If so it should be DVB-C Annex B or ATSC so it works with North American television sets. 
American TV sets won't have DVBT tuners built-in.
2)
Yes, this is correct, the DVB-C Annex B is actually Annex J.83b, please change it to J.83B, from the modulation menu or reset unit the default configuration, The default is J.83B channel 2 (57mhz)
Answer:

Hello, that's great news. Happy to hear the install went well.

2) Yes, we totally get that. They just so happen to be countless helpful documents on the product page, which can be downloaded, and also a bunch of instructional videos on how to do that. The box is pretty small and we just put in the install manual; all other docs and helpful tips tricks and extended installation docs we leave up on the website. Perhaps we should add a note in the units box that those are available via the web

https://thorbroadcast.com/product/petit-hdmi-rf-modulator-1.html

Scroll all the way to the bottom, all the PDF's are there.

Answer:
The RF Petit modulator has about +35dbmv RF output power, but next generation will have +40dbmv RF output power, same as the 4ch HDMI modulator
RF is a bit like water pressure, it is being lost traveling over the Coax, depending on channel frequency and coax cable type
this is the insertion loss by frequency a cable:
 
 
 
Answer:
If you need to use an Antenna, and need a couple HDMI sources converted to ATSC channels to watch along with your Antenna, these would be a great fit. 
Simple to use, compact, Full 1080 Picture quality is excellent. Use a combiner to get all the sources in the same RG6 to inject into the rest of your system. 
Units are readily available and have tech support included, along with a 30 day moneyback guarantee. 
Let me know if you have any specific questions about operation or setup, but it looks like you're just replacing an older analog unit, so this should be a smooth transition.
Answer:
 
 
How many HDMI sources do you have total?
i figured i could buy a splitter if needed. Also a computer with dvd player and cut out the vhs
So just one HDMI source?
yes
this is what currently use = DVISn Nano Encoder – RF Out
The DVISn (Nano) encoder/multiplexer with RF output is the most cost-effective and smallest form factor solution within the DVIS line of products for inserting locally generated content into an MDU, hotel or commercial property in digital format. It is ideal for applications requiring a low-cost, basic solution for SD MPEG-2 encoding and QAM-based distribution or insertion of locally generated content into a coax network. Extremely compact and wall mountable, the DVISn device fits into virtually any space and includes fully integrated audio/video encoding, multiplexing and QAM modulation.
We can add this HDMI "Channel" to an assigned number not being used by your current CATV system, and any TV set to that channel wil be able to get the TV
so it should be easy to swap devices ?
Yes very much so
we can even preconfigure the device to your current settings so when you get it, you just have to plug it in
do use third party to come on site ?
or I should be able to handle ?
You should be able to hook up a few cables
we will set it up like your current unit, all we need to know is which channel you're currently sending video on
dont recall - but i find out when time comes
so its matter of ordering via thor website and you config and ship and i plug in - done?
correct
just send us an email after you order with the information we need, and we'll do the rest
Answer:
 
this is the least expensive transmitter we offer
We have two compact optical RX options
RF over Fiber equipment only works on singlemode fiber. hopefully thats what you have installed. If you have multimode, nothing in the world will work.
That's bad news, because I'm afraid the cable is multi-mode.
You can not put RF on multimode fiber. flat out doesn't work.
How can I tell what type of cable has been installed?
single mode cable is usually yellow
MM is usually orange
Ours is orange. OK, and thanks for the input. Time to think about a Plan B, which would involve replacing the RG-6 with a better grade coaxial cable. What would you recommend?
RG 6 is the standard most people go with.
You can go up to RG11
but realistically at 700ft you'll need Amps regardless
We're getting way too much signal attenuation over a run of that length.
Might be an easy solution if you just have the one run giving you issues. Then again if you think your cable is damaged, installed poorly, thus giving you too much attenuation then replace it with RG 11 and throw on a DA
technically speaking you shouldn't even be able to get a signal on the other side
900MHz
 
20.1dB
 
6.0dB
 
5.4dB
So in this table RG 6 versus RG 11 is only .6db of loss difference per 100ft
I would get an amp, don't worry about the cable
It's just that single long run. The rest of the CATV distribution system uses amps.
if its RG59 then replace the coax, if its RG6 then leave it
our amp is +30 db so you'll replace about 500ft of cable with one unit
Tx
Does the amp go at the transmitting end or the receiving? Or in the middle?
depends on how much power you're reading at the transmission site, if its high, then go middle, if its low at the outset, then go transmission then middle
get an RF meter and check the power at multiple points and see where you are
you don't want to overdrive the signal to high and then go too low, you'll degrade the quality that way
Are you recommending a specific amplifier?
ours never have issues
The RG-6 is in the ceiling. To stall an amp at a half-way point would require an electrical outlet that's not there.
 

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